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post Mar 28 2019, 20:09:02
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Можно спросить? почему на музыкальном сайте тяжелой музыки отсутствуют такие группы и их творчество последние как Blutkult
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post Mar 28 2019, 20:15:33
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Because of their ideology and lyrical themes. More importantly, because of metalarea trolls who would then start discussion in comment section which would eventually lead to users getting banned and topics being deleted. Best to prevent it then to later have to clean after trolls who lack self-control. I have nothing against it, good music is good music - but people are people and people suck. And that's why "No NSBM" rule exists on portal, that's one of the reasons.


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там НСБМа нет по сути (IMG:style_emoticons/default/16.gif)
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post Mar 28 2019, 20:19:12
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You know, all previous releases of Nordglanz are available here. So if you will I would like to upload new release of `em here cause it contains NOTHING that provocative or NSBM related.

But if it still forbidden then I won`t do that.
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post Mar 28 2019, 20:44:48
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Yes, there are still many old NS releases on metalarea, that is because this rule against NS related music didn't always exist - and now when I see such old releases which are NS but aren't really hurting anyone or bothering anyone, I don't delete them and let them be on site.

But when it is a new release I cannot approve it because it's a provocative subject and out of respect (considering the political Russian-Ukrainian situation, it would be disrespectful to add new NS radical releases to this mostly Russian site).

I think the rule is here for a reason, it existed even before I joined the site and - therefore, it is not on me to change it. Like I said, I have nothing against good music and I even listen to and enjoy many NS bands (which doesn't make me NS, I'm not sheep) - but unnecessary provocation and problems are best to be prevented and avoided.

Maybe, who knows, someday the rule will change and then we will have Absurd discography on portal again. There used to be entire discography of Absurd and it disappeared.


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post Mar 28 2019, 20:45:59
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Ok then.

Thanx for explanation. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)


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post Mar 28 2019, 20:50:48
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НС надо вернуть на портал и не лениться тереть троллей.


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post Mar 28 2019, 20:52:32
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ЦИТАТА(6666666 @ Mar 28 2019, 22:50:48) *
НС надо вернуть на портал и не лениться тереть троллей.

С такими демаршами скоро поверю восьмидесятому, что Адик был таки евреем)


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post Mar 28 2019, 20:59:56
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С такими демаршами скоро поверю восьмидесятому, что Адик был таки евреем)

Дело не конкретно в НС, а в факте бана по признаку концепции лирики на музыкальном(!) портале.


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ЦИТАТА(6666666 @ Mar 28 2019, 23:50:48) *
НС надо вернуть на портал и не лениться тереть троллей.


It`s up to a whole team of moderators, not one person.

Taking into consideration the fact that current set of rules there are very rigid your suggestion won`t work.
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post Mar 28 2019, 21:01:49
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банить надо просто долбодятлов, а НС пусть будет.


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ЦИТАТА(garmonbozia @ Mar 28 2019, 23:01:49) *
банить надо просто долбодятлов, а НС пусть будет.

Не надо меня баннить, я противоречивый, со мной весело!
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It`s up

Мне-то какого хрена на английском пишешь? Бордерлайн и по-русски умеет читать, так что зря стараешься.


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ЦИТАТА(Фо @ 29th March 2019 - 01:03:05) *
Не надо меня баннить, я противоречивый, со мной весело!

ты в правильные деревья долбишь, не волнуйся.


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post Mar 28 2019, 21:21:49
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QUOTE(добрыйКот @ Mar 28 2019, 20:18:20) *
там НСБМа нет по сути (IMG:style_emoticons/default/16.gif)
Yet, both bands are interestingly blocked from sale on Discogs.
QUOTE(6666666 @ Mar 28 2019, 21:03:16) *
Мне-то какого хрена на английском пишешь? Бордерлайн и по-русски умеет читать, так что зря стараешься.
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ЦИТАТА(Borderline1991 @ Mar 29 2019, 00:21:49) *
"Учтивость как качество личности – склонность в общении с другими людьми проявлять вербально или не вербально уважение к их нормам поведения, обычаям, ритуалам, традициям и верованиям."


Don`t waste your time explaining obvious things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif)

Keep it English & smoke weed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/25.gif)
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post Mar 28 2019, 21:33:12
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"Учтивость как качество личности – склонность в общении с другими людьми проявлять вербально или не вербально уважение к их нормам поведения, обычаям, ритуалам, традициям и верованиям."

Да. Но музыка тут не причём. На сайте нормально уживались разные группы в течение 8 лет, и ничего не было, кроме поверхностных вскукареков, после одного из которых этот раздел и снесли. Как и автора вскукарека, впрочем.


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post Mar 28 2019, 21:42:53
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In this case it`s IMPORTANT to discuss this burning issue both among users and moderators. If the majority are FOR the presence of NSBM here then it should be here. If not, then not.

As far as I`m concerned THE MAJORITY stands FOR it.

The main aggressor and troll Inastas Eva 69 was forever banned long ago so his initiative to establish this rule (1.7) is no longer actual.

And concerning trolls - they can be as easily banned as in any other topic on MA.
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ЦИТАТА(Borderline1991 @ 28th March 2019 - 21:21:49) *
Yet, both bands are interestingly blocked from sale on Discogs.

Давайте тогда шаблон нарушим , музон выложим , а обсуждение закроем (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)


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ЦИТАТА(добрыйКот @ Mar 29 2019, 00:44:48) *
Давайте тогда шаблон нарушим, музон выложим, а обсуждение закроем (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)


Good idea and also Darkfury album should be added.

But what`s important - THERE`S NO MORE POLITICAL TROLLS THERE who will flood in such topics so 1.7 rule is OUT OF DATE. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif)


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BTW why Loits are banned? They are definitely not an NS band.
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по клипу видно что нсбма нет
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BTW why Loits are banned? They are definitely not an NS band.
That's true and they are a good band. I actually thought the same and asked this question in moderation discussions in 2017 but nothing happened and my question (and request to remove them from prohibited artists) was ignored and eventually forgotten.
I will try to make them allowed on site, as it should be - I already wrote to admin. And if he agrees, someone (or me) can add all their releases soon in near future, and after that - I'll also gladly create a discography topic for them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)


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ЦИТАТА(Borderline1991 @ Mar 29 2019, 01:25:28) *
That's true and they are a good band. I actually thought the same and asked this question in moderation discussions in 2017 but nothing happened and my question (and request to remove them from prohibited artists) was ignored and eventually forgotten.
I will try to make it allowed on site, as it should be - I already wrote to admin. And if he agrees, someone (or me) can add all their releases soon in near future, and after that - I'll also gladly create a discography topic for them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)


It would be also great to ask for addition of the last Dark Fury as well as for the bands that are mentioned here above, taking into account that the rest of their disco is still here.

And an overall revision of 1.7 rule will be greatly appreciated among MA community. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/9.gif)


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It always makes me laugh when metalheads who claim to hate the whole world are against NSBM, because it's intolerant or whatever. Is Black Metal tolerant then? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/21.gif)
Don't forget that some people are even able to hunt Marduk, because they sing about war... Yeah, Nordglanz and Dark Fury are great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/true_black.gif)


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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 29 2019, 02:00:42) *
It always makes me laugh when metalheads who claim to hate the whole world are against NSBM, because it's intolerant or whatever. Is Black Metal tolerant then? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/21.gif)


Right as never before.

Black metal is about hatred and INTOLERANCE - no fucking compromises © Akhenathen, JUDAS ISCARIOT.


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ЦИТАТА(vosmidesijatye @ Mar 29 2019, 02:03:30) *
Right as never before.

Black metal is about hatred and INTOLERANCE - no fucking compromises © Akhenathen, JUDAS ISCARIOT.

Black Metal is not about elitism and supremacy. It is about End All Life. There are no other meaning, only Death and Destruction of all forms of life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/25.gif) VVVVE


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Black Metal is not about elitism and supremacy. It is about End All Life. There are no other meaning, only Death and Destruction of all forms of life. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/25.gif) VVVVE

Everyone has his own black metal.


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GTrooper To each his own (IMG:style_emoticons/default/genius.gif)


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