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post Jan 4 2018, 11:19:37
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*Artist: Watain
*Album: Trident Wolf Eclipse
*Year: 2018
*Genre: Black Metal
*Country: Sweden (IMG:https://metalarea.org/forum/style_images/flags/Sweden.png)
*Format: mp3@CBR320kbps
*Size: 96MB

Tracklist:
01. Nuclear Alchemy 03:07
02. Sacred Damnation 04:41
03. Teufelsreich 04:26
04. Furor Diabolicus 04:43
05. A Throne Below 04:09
06. Ultra (Pandemoniac) 04:01
07. Towards The Sanctuary 04:54
08. The Fire Of Power 04:42
09. Antikrists Mirakel (Bonus Track) 07:09
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Total playing time: 41:52

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Title=Sacred Damnation
Artist=Watain
Album=TRIDENT WOLF ECLIPSE
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Year=2018
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post Feb 8 2018, 11:43:54
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Типичный современный "разборчивый" блэк. Безлико и неинтересно.
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post Feb 8 2018, 11:47:27
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ЦИТАТА(6666666 @ Feb 8 2018, 14:43:54) *
Типичный современный "разборчивый" блэк. Безлико и неинтересно.


Странно, вроде бы у Кренделей разборчивость немногим лучше местами (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) Хотя в принципе тебе могли бы и зайти допустим релизы от 2010 или 2013, они помяхше, попопсовее, можешь попробовать навернуть. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/25.gif)
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post Feb 8 2018, 11:49:05
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ЦИТАТА(vosmidesijatye @ 8th February 2018 - 13:47:27) *
вроде бы у Кренделей разборчивость немногим лучше местами

Кавычки не несут здесь ироничный смысл.
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post Feb 8 2018, 11:51:11
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ЦИТАТА(6666666 @ Feb 8 2018, 14:49:05) *
Кавычки не несут здесь ироничный смысл.


Я и не имел иронию в виду, у КОФ порой каши очень много, когда вокал сливается с инструментами в экстазе.
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post Feb 8 2018, 11:56:08
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ЦИТАТА(vosmidesijatye @ 8th February 2018 - 13:51:11) *
у КОФ порой каши очень много, когда вокал сливается с инструментами в экстазе.

Что не мешает потрясающей мелодике, который на сабже нет нигде.
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post Feb 8 2018, 11:57:09
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ЦИТАТА(6666666 @ Feb 8 2018, 14:56:08) *
потрясающей мелодике, который на сабже нет нигде.


Есть во второй песне. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif) А на Casus Lucideri есть почти в каждой песне (IMG:style_emoticons/default/true_black.gif)
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post Feb 8 2018, 11:58:02
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ЦИТАТА(vosmidesijatye @ 8th February 2018 - 13:57:09) *
Есть во второй песне.

Нету. Проверял несколько раз. Кое-где есть неплохой драйв, но в зачаточном состоянии.
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post Mar 10 2018, 21:29:45
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Итак: после нескольких недель мотания альбома, скажу что по звуку и содержимому очень даже ничего работа.
Перелом после прошлых альбомов приблизительно такой, как в 2007 году вышел Mayhem - Ordo Ad Chao
грязный, старый, не вылизаный звук, приглушеный.
Былой мелодики построеной на секунде и "аккорде который взяли на вооружение [мат->бан]ы из Ватейн" (с) Йура из Бейонд Е-грейв - нету, и это хорошо!
кто помнит те времена понимает о чем я.
Мне зашел, думаю, можно через полгодика прогнать чтоб как-то решить для себя подбивать его в топ 2018 или нет.
Но в целом не плохо. Не сильно длинный и не короткий, не успевает надоесть. Изюминка однозначно есть, т.к. за ухо зацепился, в иной раз я бы не гонял альбом 30-40 раз по кругу.
За новостями групы не слежу, не знаю что у них там в целом происходит, может потому и зацепился.


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post Apr 4 2018, 21:12:35
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Послушал первых три трека, скорее понравилось чем нет. Немного мешает скомканый перегруженный микс, но думаю так задумано. Предыдущий альбом не слышал, но ЛД напрягал гипер эпичностью, хотя блек-рок был хорош. Тут же этого нет и всего в меру, более атмосферный альбом, не смотря на некую сумбурность. В общем однозначно нужно слушать дальше. И да третий трек очень напомнил Pralayic Withdrawal.
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post Jul 6 2018, 19:35:00
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Ну вот что пошла последнее время за мода такой говёный звук делать? Какая-то плоская, вялая параша.... Нельзя такой звук в бм делать!
Новый Иммортал из этой же оперы....
P.S. По музыке такие же вялые потуги...
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post Jul 18 2018, 15:07:23
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Короче, есть те люди, которым очень нравиться творчество Watain, а есть те, кому это все уже надоело. Предыдущие 2 альбома лично для меня интересней. На них были идеи, а тут стандартный, качественный блек. Вот если не имя, то естественно этот альбом бы прослушало минимум людей и не сильно восторгались. Как альбом в данном стиле, то очень хорош
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post Nov 19 2018, 22:48:37
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QUOTE(biroutios @ Jan 4 2018, 17:29:41) *
Unfortunately the sound is too polished and lacks of aggressivity. Particularly guitars, so poor...
The titles of the songs are like promises not kept. Actually disapointing when you listen to the material after reading them. The band is not delivering the goods.
Furor diabolicus ? Which furor ?
The fire of power ? Which fire and which power ?
Nuclear alchemy ? The begining of the song maybe... Then the cake psshhht
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Flat sound. Flat material. No rage no furor no dark atmosphere. Nothing evil. In a Word no black metal.
They managed to be worse than Goatwhore. At least respect for that.


Yes, I have never understood this whole fascination about Watain. There are just too many of those ''Orthodox/Anti-Cosmic Satanist bands''. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif)


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post Nov 19 2018, 23:54:51
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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Nov 20 2018, 01:48:37) *
Yes, I have never understood this whole fascination about Watain. There are just too many of those ''Orthodox/Anti-Cosmic Satanist bands''. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif)


Their second release was quite innovative, fresh sounding, catchy and talented. But to date their efforts look not that good unfortunately. Too many copypastes and not even a spark of fire that they breathed back to 2003...
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post Nov 20 2018, 00:42:34
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QUOTE(vosmidesijatye @ Nov 19 2018, 23:54:51) *
Their second release was quite innovative, fresh sounding, catchy and talented. But to date their efforts look not that good unfortunately. Too many copypastes and not even a spark of fire that they breathed back to 2003...


First two albums of Watain are listenable, next three are totally boring. ''The Wild Hunt'' was pathetic... ''Trident Wolf Eclipse'' is still better than the last Behemoth. Since the success of ''Casus Luciferi'' Watain cares more about marketing and show business (just like Behemoth!) so it explains why most of their albums are lousy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/21.gif)
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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Dec 11 2018, 12:22:53) *
''Trident Wolf Eclipse'' is still better than the last Behemoth.


You compare things that can`t be compared, B & W are completely different types of music. They don`t even belong to one subgenre of metal.
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QUOTE(vosmidesijatye @ Dec 11 2018, 09:58:49) *
You compare things that can`t be compared, B & W are completely different types of music. They don`t even belong to one subgenre of metal.

compared as gone both commercial and sell out I guess


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ЦИТАТА(babanguida @ Dec 11 2018, 22:39:46) *
compared as gone both commercial and sell out I guess


Are you their personal accountant?
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QUOTE(vosmidesijatye @ Dec 11 2018, 19:41:22) *
Are you their personal accountant?

stop being a clown and open your ears (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif)
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ЦИТАТА(babanguida @ Dec 11 2018, 22:43:26) *
stop being a clown and open your ears


Already did it and what I hear is that Watain is still a good black metal (well not THAT plain and bad) though I don`t like this particular album.

Behemoth I don`t even listened to (their recent piece of music) because it`s not my type of music at all.
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QUOTE(vosmidesijatye @ Dec 11 2018, 19:45:51) *
Already did it and what I hear is that Watain is still a good black metal (well not THAT plain and bad) though I don`t like this particular album.

Behemoth I don`t even listened to (their recent piece of music) because it`s not my type of music at all.

To me Watin are pure posers without any interesting content for a long time now. This effort is trying to sound authentic but it is fake in every way and flat.
I hope to change my mind one day... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/21.gif)


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QUOTE(babanguida @ Dec 11 2018, 19:39:46) *
compared as gone both commercial and sell out I guess


Yes, indeed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile3.gif)
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ЦИТАТА(babanguida @ Dec 11 2018, 22:48:29) *
I hope to change my mind one day... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/21.gif)


It`s totally useless (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif)


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QUOTE(babanguida @ Dec 11 2018, 19:48:29) *
To me Watin are pure posers without any interesting content for a long time now. This effort is trying to sound authentic but it is fake in every way and flat.


Yes, at least name of tracks and the whole album aren't that pathetic as Behemoth's. ''God = Dog''. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) ''Wolf ov Siberia'' beer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) Maybe I just don't love Behemoth at their darkest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) So this year even Watain was better that Nergal's money making band. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif)


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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Dec 11 2018, 23:12:50) *
So this year even Watain was better that Nergal's money making band. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif)


Everyone loves money. But the thing is that A REAL creator that stays true to himself always keep somehow away from it and doesn`t sacrifice art on the altar of greed. On the other hand he uses it for creating somethin` more interesting.
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QUOTE(vosmidesijatye @ Dec 11 2018, 20:16:50) *
Everyone loves money. But the thing is that A REAL creator that stays true to himself always keep somehow away from it and doesn`t sacrifice art on the altar of greed. On the other hand he uses it for creating somethin` more interesting.


Black Metal since the very beginning was anti-commercial, thus anti-materialistic. Both Watain and Behemoth are the opossite of this idea. They don't produce interesting things, so you even proved with your words they are not real creators.
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Black Metal since the very beginning was anti-commercial, thus anti-materialistic. Both Watain and Behemoth are the opossite of this idea. They don't produce interesting things, so you even proved with your words they are not real creators.


Well but Black Metal you talkin` bout was dead almost 20 years ago. Of course there`re still creators who create with passion but there`re also a lot of those who just don`t care about the real true core in da music and do whatever he wants.


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QUOTE(vosmidesijatye @ Dec 11 2018, 20:35:49) *
Well but Black Metal you talkin` bout was dead almost 20 years ago. Of course there`re still creators who create with passion but there`re also a lot of those who just don`t care about the real true core in da music and do whatever he wants.


Yes, unfortunately. For me creators who continue the idea of underground Black Metal are more valuable than all those commercial/entertainment bands.
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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Dec 11 2018, 23:39:48) *
Yes, unfortunately. For me creators who continue the idea of underground Black Metal are more valuable than all those commercial/entertainment bands.


You can be happy - there`re still thousands of such "non-commercial" bands (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif)


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ЦИТАТА(babanguida @ Dec 11 2018, 23:50:20) *
Like Perky Macabre? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif)


I didn`t know that they play black metal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/17.gif)
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