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Posted by: Grzechu Nov 4 2021, 17:21:18

Who was first?

It's about the first albums of the style that we consider today as symphonic black metal

not about those ablums where symphonic elements appeared giving rise to a later genre.

Posted by: Necrodictator Nov 4 2021, 18:16:03

Jilemnický okultista

Posted by: Daale Nov 4 2021, 19:27:24

Necrodictator, Nope


Grzechu, I think it's Arcturus «My Angel EP» from 1991. Before that some stuff from Mortem (pre-Arcturus), but it's more death metal-related. Honestly, I didn't remember stuff from «Slow Death» very good.

Posted by: Grzechu Nov 4 2021, 20:42:29

An interesting challenge, a return to the past
When the term was first used in the music press, who did it, for which band etc
Investigation in progress

Posted by: Necrodictator Nov 5 2021, 01:29:14

Someone's having troubles with reading comprehension, apparently

Posted by: Daale Nov 5 2021, 04:29:08

Necrodictator, Someone think he so smart. But I think this is misunderstanding.The author of the question probably meant the release, not LP specifically.

EP it's mini-album by the way. Author don't say full-lenght album. So?

Posted by: kefka Nov 5 2021, 06:01:01

According to wikipedia, the first band using keys has been Bulldozer's "Neurodeliri" back in 1988... though they never did it again on their next releases, nor they can be labelled as Black Metal, like Arcturus. So Emperor "In the Nightside Eclipse" was probably the starting point

Posted by: Grzechu Nov 5 2021, 08:34:52

In the Nightside Eclipse 94
Master's Hammer - Ritual 91

It's hard to say, it's hard to define the boundary to which the band has symphonic elements in music
and which bases the entire composition on a classical/symphonic composition.

Posted by: Daale Nov 5 2021, 09:22:23

I listen album long ago, but I don't think that he has a place to be here. Try to listen it right now. Necrodictator's «Jilemnický okultista» from Master's Hammer sounds more correct for our topic.

By the way, «Ritual» are great.

P.S. Дальше по-русски, ребят. Мой английский слишком плох, чтобы рассуждать про блэчОк

Posted by: Grzechu Nov 5 2021, 11:08:24

Think about me,I have worse
I don't even have your font on the keyboard

Posted by: Formaldehyd Nov 5 2021, 11:37:06

Posted by: Necrodictator Nov 5 2021, 12:24:11

Я ещё раз до*бусь и скажу что тот релиз Арктурус вообще скорее сингл, чем мини-альбом

Posted by: Daale Nov 5 2021, 13:17:25

Necrodictator, Ну вот, сразу бы так! Вообще, все это спорно. Тогда таких строгих делений не было. В любом случае, это, как по мне, скорее все-таки EP. Хоть и в два трека. Мариус там поет прекрасно, один из моих любимых релизов у A., хоть и маленький.

Конселейшн потом писался параллельно Emperor. Жаль, что из-за занятости музыкантов первый полновес только к 96 был сделан.

Твой вариант мне нравится, но я все-таки в сторону A. склоняюсь. К ним в состав на EP'шку 94 ещё потом и Самот подтянулся (хотя у них полноформат уже вышел, да)

Posted by: Necrodictator Nov 5 2021, 13:41:26

Вообще, если название темы буквально воспринимать, то тогда первый альбом с симфо-блэком это как раз Бульдозеровский Neurodeliri. Первая песня там вот без всяких натяжек вполне себе симфоник блэк метал.

If we take the topic's title quite literally than the first album featuring symphonic black metal would be Bulldozer Neurodeliri. The title song is genuine symphonic black metal even by modern standards.

Posted by: Grzechu Nov 5 2021, 13:53:39

01 - Overture / Neurodeliri
it actually smells like I am the Black Wizards