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*Artist: Behemoth
*Album: Grom
*Year: 1996
*Genre: Pagan Black Metal
*Country: Poland (IMG:https://metalarea.org/forum/style_images/flags/Poland.png)
*Format: mp3@320
*Size: 100.71 Мб.

Tracklist:
1. Intro
2. The Dark Forest (Cast Me Your Spell)
3. Spellcraft And Heathendom
4. Dragon's Lair (Cosmic Flames And Four Barbaric Seasons)
5. Lasy Pomorza
6. Rising Proudly Towards the Sky
7. Thou Shalt Forever Win
8. Grom
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Total playing time: 44:55

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post Mar 9 2020, 19:54:42
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ЦИТАТА(vosmidesijatye @ Mar 9 2020, 21:39:12) *
И мир бы не услышал Телему? Нет, нет, так не надо (IMG:style_emoticons/default/23.gif)

Телема - закос под морбидов


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Это то, что пошло после Телемы - закос под Морбидов. А Телема самодостаточный и очень важный для развития дэта и блэка альбом.


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Интересно. Ну, ДОПУСТИМ, они бы распались после сабжа. И что бы это дало? Кому-то это бы дало дополнительный стимул ценить Grom и Sventevith? - Нет. Более того, о них бы узнало гораздо меньшее число слушателей, чем знают сейчас. А группа бы подходила по условиям отбора для Сатурналий. Сет-листы группы состояли бы исключительно из раннего материала? - Нет. Потому что группы бы вообще не было. В общем, я решительно не понимаю, что движет теми, кто желает распада той или иной банде.


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post Mar 9 2020, 21:48:01
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И мир бы не услышал Телему?

Не много бы потерял.
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ЦИТАТА(Deze @ Mar 9 2020, 23:08:49) *
Это то, что пошло после Телемы - закос под Морбидов. А Телема самодостаточный и очень важный для развития дэта и блэка альбом.

Да и Телега эта закос тот ещё. Как услышал по выходу, сразу так и сказал. Пошёл в парк, нашёл большое дупло, и туда сказал. И вообще этот Тумбатварек никогда сами ничего не придумывали, а метались по стилям, где бы краше нарисоваться. Никаких интересных идей я у них не наблюдал и не наблюдаю.
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post Mar 9 2020, 23:07:27
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QUOTE(Deze @ Mar 9 2020, 21:08:49) *
А Телема самодостаточный и очень важный для развития дэта и блэка альбом.


It's a good album, but not really important for Black/Death Metal. There were many far more important bands and albums before ''Thelema''.

QUOTE(Exorcist @ Mar 9 2020, 21:45:39) *
В общем, я решительно не понимаю, что движет теми, кто желает распада той или иной банде.


Some wars between bands or even scenes or hating this or that band was always a part of Black/Death Metal underground. Now it doesn't really matter if such bands like Behemoth exist or not. Nergal is a clown, but who cares. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif)


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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 10 2020, 03:07:27) *
It's a good album, but not really important for Black/Death Metal. There were many far more important bands and albums before ''Thelema''.

Да как же ж not important, если он выработал (хотя больше не он, а Сатаника) особый подвид блэк/дэта, который потом стал слышаться у десятков групп и не только из Польши.


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ЦИТАТА(Deze @ Mar 10 2020, 14:45:58) *
Да как же ж not important, если он выработал (хотя больше не он, а Сатаника) особый подвид блэк/дэта, который потом стал слышаться у десятков групп и не только из Польши.

это какие то особо потные и завонялые группы типа Нате. мы такое не слушаем! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/23.gif)


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Альбом после которого они стали становится все боле и более заднеприводными, то есть разноплановыми я хотел сказать (IMG:style_emoticons/default/m0821.gif)
Будучи подростком обожал слушать Свантевита и Гром, альбомы родом из 90-ых золотого времени для Блэк Метала как по мне. Сейчас эти альбомы не производят былого впечатления как раньше, да и переслушивал я их последний раз лет этак 10 назад. А вообще для меня Бегемот странно-интересная группа, каждый их новый альбом начиная с Пандемоник Инкантейшен (вроде правильно написал) я слушаю стабильно один раз и больше не возвращаюсь к повторному прослушиванию. Такие вот дела.
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А мне вот следующий еще более-менее идет, а вот потом да, грустно...
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QUOTE(Deze @ Mar 10 2020, 12:45:58) *
Да как же ж not important, если он выработал (хотя больше не он, а Сатаника) особый подвид блэк/дэта, который потом стал слышаться у десятков групп и не только из Польши.


Behemoth may inspired only boring bands like Hate and it was after 2000, while bands like Sarcofago, Blasphemy, Beherit, Mortuary Drape or even early Belphegor (unfortunately they became clowns very quickly) contributed to Black/Death many years before ''Thelema''. Anyway after ''Thelema'' Behemoth changed the style a bit once again and released three Brutal Death Metal albums which weren't very original as well. They were just trying to play like legends of Death Metal such as Morbid Angel and Nile.
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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 10 2020, 22:45:46) *
Behemoth may inspired only boring bands like Hate and it was after 2000, while bands like Sarcofago, Blasphemy, Beherit, Mortuary Drape or even early Belphegor (unfortunately they became clowns very quickly) contributed to Black/Death many years before ''Thelema''. Anyway after ''Thelema'' Behemoth changed the style a bit once again and released three Brutal Death Metal albums which weren't very original as well. They were just trying to play like legends of Death Metal such as Morbid Angel and Nile.


Behemoth never was a brutal death metal band.

They are as brutal as an old post-USSR woman sitting on the bench near khruschovka. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/25.gif)


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QUOTE(vosmidesijatye @ Mar 10 2020, 20:08:00) *
Behemoth never was a brutal death metal band.

They are as brutal as an old post-USSR woman sitting on the bench near khruschovka. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/25.gif)


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2002-2007 albums are close to this style, but more blackened. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile3.gif)
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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 10 2020, 23:45:46) *
Behemoth may inspired only boring bands like Hate and it was after 2000
But they did.

ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 10 2020, 23:45:46) *
while bands like Sarcofago, Blasphemy, Beherit, Mortuary Drape or even early Belphegor (unfortunately they became clowns very quickly) contributed to Black/Death many years before ''Thelema''
That is other variation of Black and Death blend. And, by the way, bands in this list also differs one from another. Belphegor and Blasphemy/Beherit - that is 2 different ways of B/D. And what here is doing Sarcofago and Mortuary Drape?

ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 10 2020, 23:45:46) *
Anyway after ''Thelema'' Behemoth changed the style a bit once again and released three Brutal Death Metal albums which weren't very original as well. They were just trying to play like legends of Death Metal such as Morbid Angel and Nile.
I'm not sure that Morbid Angel-like can be called "brutal death metal", cause MA itself never was brutal death metal, though I totally agree regarding unoriginality.
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QUOTE(Deze @ Mar 10 2020, 20:50:37) *
That is other variation of Black and Death blend. And, by the way, bands in this list also differs one from another. Belphegor and Blasphemy/Beherit - that is 2 different ways of B/D. And what here is doing Sarcofago and Mortuary Drape?


Yes, Black/Death Metal is a very complexed and diversified subgenre, but without a doubt Sacrofago, Blasphemy and Beherit were foundation and inspired many bands. Including even Behemoth. Early demos and especially first two albums of Mortuary Drape are great piece of Black/Death Metal. Early Belphegor was different from the rest of mentioned bands, but nevertheless all of them contributed to Black/Death years before Behemoth started to play ''Blackened Death Metal''.

QUOTE(Deze @ Mar 10 2020, 20:50:37) *
I'm not sure that Morbid Angel-like can be called "brutal death metal", cause MA itself never was brutal death metal, though I totally agree regarding unoriginality.


I meant they were closer to MA ''Gateways...'' and the brutality (and lyrics) to Nile. Some Krisiun as well. ''Evangelion'' seems to be more original or at least much better than 2002-2007.
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ЦИТАТА(Exorcist @ Mar 9 2020, 23:45:39) *
Интересно. Ну, ДОПУСТИМ, они бы распались после сабжа. И что бы это дало? Кому-то это бы дало дополнительный стимул ценить Grom и Sventevith? - Нет. Более того, о них бы узнало гораздо меньшее число слушателей, чем знают сейчас. А группа бы подходила по условиям отбора для Сатурналий. Сет-листы группы состояли бы исключительно из раннего материала? - Нет. Потому что группы бы вообще не было. В общем, я решительно не понимаю, что движет теми, кто желает распада той или иной банде.

Ну вот взять к примеру тот же Kvist или Storm - культовые же альбомы. Так и эти были бы культом. А потом бы Нерджэл сформировал бы свой петушиный проект и играл бы то, что ему хочется
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Aresson, on using bullying v otnoshenii english ludei
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ЦИТАТА(Moonshtook @ Mar 11 2020, 13:15:23) *
А потом бы Нерджэл сформировал бы свой петушиный проект и играл бы то, что ему хочется

Зачем ему создавать новый проект, если у него уже есть проект, в котором он играет все, что захочет?)

Продолжать стоило хотя бы ради Телемы и Сатаниста.


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Moonshtook, ну так он же и сформировал Me and that man чтоб играть стилистически отличную металу музыку. В чём проблема-то не понимаю?


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Так проблем и нет, проблемы есть только у товарища Moonshtookа, который даже в собственном нике пропустил букву "d" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif)


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ЦИТАТА(Moonshtook @ Mar 11 2020, 08:15:23) *
Ну вот взять к примеру тот же Kvist или Storm - культовые же альбомы. Так и эти были бы культом. А потом бы Нерджэл сформировал бы свой петушиный проект и играл бы то, что ему хочется


Что мешает "этим" быть культом сейчас? Нафига Нергалу ещё какой-то проект, если у него уже есть ДВА ПРОЕКТА (металёвый и неметалёвый), в которых он играет именно то, что ему хочется?

P.S. Satanica и Thelema. 6 уже давно культ и классика, безотносительно того, нравится это упоротым или нет.
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ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 11 2020, 02:10:52) *
Yes, Black/Death Metal is a very complexed and diversified subgenre
That's what I'm talking about - in blend of black and death metals there are several branches. Behemoth surely weren't founders of blend itself, but in 1999-2000 they founded one NEW branch of it and this branch grows to strong tree. You can like it or not (me personally don't - I'm not fan nether Behemoth 99-00, nor their followers), but it is dull to fight against this fact.

ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 11 2020, 02:10:52) *
especially first two albums of Mortuary Drape are great piece of Black/Death Metal.
I remember - I've heard this band. they played Black/Thrash (as Sacrofago does), not Black/Death

ЦИТАТА(wolverine @ Mar 11 2020, 02:10:52) *
I meant they were closer to MA ''Gateways...'' and the brutality (and lyrics) to Nile. Some Krisiun as well. ''Evangelion'' seems to be more original or at least much better than 2002-2007.
Behemoth 02-07 is almost pure MA-worship (and much weaker than original staff), while Evangelion is some kind of blackening of MA-worship and it is really more original way. 100% agree.
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ЦИТАТА(Deze @ Mar 11 2020, 11:13:35) *
Behemoth 02-07 is almost pure MA-worship

Baw to us faithfully, baw to us spandenly!©

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QUOTE(Deze @ Mar 11 2020, 09:13:35) *
That's what I'm talking about - in blend of black and death metals there are several branches. Behemoth surely weren't founders of blend itself, but in 1999-2000 they founded one NEW branch of it and this branch grows to strong tree. You can like it or not (me personally don't - I'm not fan nether Behemoth 99-00, nor their followers), but it is dull to fight against this fact.


Nowadays it's even unnecessary to fight against commercial bands. People can listen to whatever they want. War between the underground and mainstream is over long time ago. On the other hand sometimes you can notice that some underground bands support the mainstream ones and vice versa. ''Do what thou wilt''. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile3.gif)

QUOTE(Deze @ Mar 11 2020, 09:13:35) *
I remember - I've heard this band. they played Black/Thrash (as Sacrofago does), not Black/Death


Oh, these tags again. For me Mortuary Drape is Black/Death. Call them as you wish, but it's a great band anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/9.gif)

QUOTE(Deze @ Mar 11 2020, 09:13:35) *
Behemoth 02-07 is almost pure MA-worship (and much weaker than original staff), while Evangelion is some kind of blackening of MA-worship and it is really more original way. 100% agree.


Yes, ''Evangelion'' is among their best if we consider albums released only after 1996.
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ЦИТАТА(Фо @ 11th March 2020 - 12:24:12) *
Baw

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ЦИТАТА(Фо @ 11th March 2020 - 12:24:12) *
Только, форма поклонения у них страдает

это потому что мы сами страдаем, то ползём, как змеи, то крадёмся, как коты
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They are as brutal as an old post-USSR woman sitting on the bench near khruschovka.

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Не стоит от восточно европейских групп ждать чуда, сабж просто удачно записали альбомы в плане звука начиная с сатаники, но это не делает их особо оригинальной группой как многим кажется. Не люблю музыку привязывать к географии, но здесь это так и есть.
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post Oct 30 2021, 04:41:55
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2002 Reissue 105MB/320+Scans
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I found the 2023 re-release on the web: https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Behemoth/Grom/1119224
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ЦИТАТА(orloff2000 @ Apr 1 2023, 18:55:57) *
I found the 2023 re-release on the web: https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Behemoth/Grom/1119224


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