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post Jan 15 2024, 12:44:02
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*Artist: Abigor
*Album: Taphonomia Aeternitatis - Gesänge Im Leichenlicht Der Welt
*Year: 2023
*Genre: Black Metal
*Country: Austria (IMG:https://metalarea.org/forum/style_images/flags/Austria.png)
*Format: mp3@VBR245kbps
*Size: 98MB

Tracklist:
1. Halt the Wheel of Timeless Change 04:48
2. Soldaten Satans 06:09
3. Feasting on the Prophet’s Blood 06:00
4. Extermination Angel 05:07
5. Cult of Elder Chaos 06:52
6. Burning Hell 06:34
7. Forniotrs Weltenreise 06:10
8. Morning Star Anthropophagia 06:34
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Total playing time: 48:14

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Title=Soldaten Satans
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Year=2023
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post Jan 19 2024, 12:19:16
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ЦИТАТА(Daale @ 19th January 2024 - 09:27:44) *
WEB Bandcamp edition
OLD MASTER, кстати, вполне понравился, и альбом заблестел чутка иными гранями. Не готов однозначно говорить "лучше бы так и выпустили", но пока буду гонять именно эту версию.


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post Jan 19 2024, 15:08:35
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Предыдущий до дыр а этот половину не осилил
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post Jan 20 2024, 23:31:23
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За последние 10 лет пожалуй самый понравившийся альбом у группы. Кто слышит тут какие то сложности в музыке - тот, то-ли не ту группу взялся слушать, то-ли не вможах сесть и спокойно вдумчиво послушать. Альбом в самом деле не менее доступен чем тот же Totschläger. Но при этом он более творчески богат, с позволения сказать.
Хаос породил Танцующую Звезду. Похоже, что тут всё-же Альбом Года в стиле.


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post Jan 20 2024, 23:33:42
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Every single note, every riff, every drum hit, every change in vocals is just sublime here, just fucking way too good for you who can't discerne this music (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alkash.gif)


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post Jan 21 2024, 08:41:18
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Rebel Extravaganza,Grand Declaration of War,La Masquerade Infernale
and now this and even the sound finally stopped being physically tiring (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)


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post Jan 21 2024, 11:29:33
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QUOTE(Grzechu @ Jan 21 2024, 08:41:18) *
Rebel Extravaganza,Grand Declaration of War,La Masquerade Infernale
and now this and even the sound finally stopped being physically tiring (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)

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post Jan 21 2024, 11:51:46
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biroutios, Influence from GDoW in Abigor late discography — obviously. Moreover, Grzechu is more likely talking about references, which he was not the only one to notice here

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post Jan 21 2024, 12:24:24
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QUOTE(Daale @ Jan 21 2024, 11:51:46) *
biroutios, Influence from GDoW in Abigor late discography — obviously. Moreover, Grzechu is more likely talking about references, which he was not the only one to notice here

Incongruous comparisons and even more speaking about the other mentioned band. Repeating what an idiot said further above is not making it relevant.
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post Jan 21 2024, 12:46:03
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biroutios, And who decides what is compatible and what is not? Is there some general rule fixed at the level of reality or am I missing something?

ЦИТАТА(biroutios @ 21st January 2024 - 16:24:24) *
Repeating what an idiot said further above is not making it relevant.


And I’ll ask again: who decided? In my opinion, the voice of each user here is equal. But instead of argumentation, you appeal to the individual. Which puts us in a not-so-convenient position.
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post Jan 21 2024, 13:02:18
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Yeah, sure GDOW influences... While TT hates post-DMDS Mayhem more than anything else. You are funny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile1.gif)

If you are so interested in what influenced Abigor you can read their interviews.

They decided to reunite in 2007 because TT heard new potential for BM from "SolarKult" by Blacklodge. Just to drop one name. There were obviously other bands (I think Deathspell Omega and Blut Aus Nord were among them). Also the guy is a Laibach fan, and you can obviously hear some influences in composition. I believe he digs Skinny Puppy too (hence chaotic sound) but this I am not sure of.

I think TT never even heard Rebel Extravanza or GDOW considering his undying hate towards trendy and mass-market BM.


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post Jan 21 2024, 13:13:16
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ЦИТАТА(piedpiper @ 21st January 2024 - 17:02:18) *
Yeah, sure GDOW influences... While TT hates post-DMDS Mayhem more than anything else. You are funny


I hate a lot of stuff in my life. But this stuff influenced my life. And nothing can be done about it. At least stupid comments on forums and social networks (not about our conversation)

ЦИТАТА(piedpiper @ 21st January 2024 - 17:02:18) *
If you are so interested in what influenced Abigor you can read their interviews


I read it. It’s a funny fact, of course, what inspired those groups. And what inspired these or those. Otherwise we will end up with the same thing. WLA-era Mayhem and Ven Buens Ende inspired (direct or inderect) a lot of dissonant black metal / dissonant death metal bands all over the world. Including Deathspell Omega (and yes, immediately predicting the reaction about influences for 2004-2010 stuff, I read Bardo Methodology interview)

ЦИТАТА(piedpiper @ 21st January 2024 - 17:02:18) *
GDOW considering his undying hate towards trendy and mass-market BM.

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GDOW

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mass-market BM.


Funniest thing I've read in a very long time.
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QUOTE(piedpiper @ Jan 21 2024, 13:02:18) *
TT hates post-DMDS Mayhem more than anything else.


It doesn't matter what TT hates if what is playing is still similar to this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/25.gif)
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Хотелки ТТ имеют очень большое значение где-то, но не в музыке Abigor.
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QUOTE(Grzechu @ Jan 21 2024, 13:20:48) *
It doesn't matter what TT hates if what is playing is still similar to this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/25.gif)

Absolutely nothing similar. Similar means more or less the same. Which idiot could say this...


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ЦИТАТА(mirotvorets @ Jan 21 2024, 14:30:58) *
Хотелки ТТ имеют очень большое значение где-то, но не в музыке Abigor.

Lol who do you think compose most of the mterial?

ЦИТАТА(Daale @ Jan 21 2024, 14:13:16) *
Funniest thing I've read in a very long time.

It's not mine but TT opinion on Mayhem.

I like GDOW, but I don't know in what universe it's similar to any Abigor record. Not in this for sure.


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ЦИТАТА(piedpiper @ 21st January 2024 - 20:30:31) *
It's not mine but TT opinion on Mayhem.


I have zero complaints to you. It's funny and sad to see how Thomas takes it all. But, in my eyes and in my perception, I have already explained how it is. It is impossible to answer this question on 100% in any case.

ЦИТАТА(piedpiper @ 21st January 2024 - 20:30:31) *
I like GDOW, but I don't know in what universe it's similar to any Abigor record. Not in this for sure.


If I have free time, I will definitely sit down and listen GDoW again and try to show here specific similar fragments. Until that time, if it ever happens, we’ll just shake hands and stick to our opinions.


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There were lots of dissonant BM releases with industrial touches before and after GDOW. Abigor were inspired by "666 International" according to an interview with PK after the release of Satanized, for example.
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Apparently you don't know how to listen,but this is what they teach in schools (music school)
It's not enough to turn something on and hear it,it has to be learned how
just as it is not enough to read, you also need to understand text that you are reading
but apparently this art is only taught to "idiots"
"intelligence" cannot master it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile3.gif) well...

You listen to music without understanding what do you hear and you want to review it
like typical festival and discos regulars at the Philharmonic

- what do you think about Bach's music?
- this is shit,because I can't dance to it :D

QUOTE(biroutios @ Jan 21 2024, 15:50:30) *
Absolutely nothing similar. Similar means more or less the same. Which idiot could say this...


Will you issue me a pass or some other document, authorizing me to say what I hear?
Should I contact some institution?
World Music Organization etc there are any legal provisions?
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QUOTE(piedpiper @ Jan 21 2024, 18:30:31) *
Lol who do you think compose most of the mterial?

Actually, not so sure about this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/crazy.gif)
If you'll listen to "Satanized" which was composed and recorded without TT, you'll find a lot of typical post-2000 Abigor riffs and harmonies there (minus the DsO influence).
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Walpurgis, But «Wolf Lair Abyss» came out before «666 International», If we still talk about dissonant black metal. And see up here, I talk about VBE of course.

By the way, all I can say right now — already here. After some "home work" all listeners can return here and exchange arguments again.
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«Wolf Lair Abyss» came out before «666 International»
in other words,we can't be similar to our younger brothers because we were born earlier
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Out of context. I don't say this


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ЦИТАТА(piedpiper @ Jan 21 2024, 19:30:31) *
Lol who do you think compose most of the mterial?


Кубик очень сильный инструменталист и аранжировщик, все вносят свой вклад, но он - основной участник и автор материала.


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QUOTE(Daale @ Jan 21 2024, 17:00:57) *
Out of context. I don't say this

I know, it's just a digression, a loose association
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Из всех этих речей Высокого интуристов могу сказать, что нет.

Кстати, никакими экстравагитными (ультрабеременный в переводе) бунтарями тут и не пахнет даже близко.
Я понял, на что мне похож этот высокозаумный, но унылый балаган - на Крендель Фильки. Не дотягивает по градусу, но вьётся вокруг.

Оно всё, как бе, хорошо собрано в кучку, но общее впечатление оставляет нехорошее. Никакого мрака, гибели и когда много действующих музыкальных лиц в произведении звучит - это оперетта их земляка Страуса, а не блек-метал получается.


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QUOTE(Фо @ Jan 21 2024, 19:11:54) *
Из всех этих речей Высокого интуристов могу сказать, что нет.

Кстати, никакими экстравагитными (ультрабеременный в переводе) бунтарями тут и не пахнет даже близко.
Я понял, на что мне похож этот высокозаумный, но унылый балаган - на Крендель Фильки. Не дотягивает по градусу, но вьётся вокруг.

Оно всё, как бе, хорошо собрано в кучку, но общее впечатление оставляет нехорошее. Никакого мрака, гибели и когда много действующих музыкальных лиц в произведении звучит - это оперетта их земляка Страуса, а не блек-метал получается.

Whatever the opinions on this Abigor album, there is not any similarity between this and Rebel Extravaganza and GDOW. I cannot agree more on this. Not even speaking about Dødheimsgard...


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ЦИТАТА(Walpurgis @ Jan 21 2024, 17:51:09) *
Actually, not so sure about this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/crazy.gif)
If you'll listen to "Satanized" which was composed and recorded without TT, you'll find a lot of typical post-2000 Abigor riffs and harmonies there (minus the DsO influence).

I've seen credits of physical copy of LL or Hollenzwang (one of those, not sure 100%). Those said "Composed by TT". I was surprised but that's how things are.

IMHO, Satanized is an awful turd.
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...and even a pinch of old Christ Agony I found during next listening
Very rich album
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QUOTE(Grzechu @ Jan 22 2024, 19:10:34) *
...and even a pinch of old Christ Agony I found during next listening
Very rich album

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