Watain - Trident Wolf Eclipse (2018), Black Metal |
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Watain - Trident Wolf Eclipse (2018), Black Metal |
Feb 8 2018, 11:57:09
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#121
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Group: Металариец |
потрясающей мелодике, который на сабже нет нигде. Есть во второй песне. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif) А на Casus Lucideri есть почти в каждой песне (IMG:style_emoticons/default/true_black.gif) |
Feb 8 2018, 11:58:02
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#122
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Group: Металариец |
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Apr 4 2018, 21:12:35
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#123
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Послушал первых три трека, скорее понравилось чем нет. Немного мешает скомканый перегруженный микс, но думаю так задумано. Предыдущий альбом не слышал, но ЛД напрягал гипер эпичностью, хотя блек-рок был хорош. Тут же этого нет и всего в меру, более атмосферный альбом, не смотря на некую сумбурность. В общем однозначно нужно слушать дальше. И да третий трек очень напомнил Pralayic Withdrawal.
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Jul 6 2018, 19:35:00
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#124
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Group: Металариец |
Ну вот что пошла последнее время за мода такой говёный звук делать? Какая-то плоская, вялая параша.... Нельзя такой звук в бм делать!
Новый Иммортал из этой же оперы.... P.S. По музыке такие же вялые потуги... |
Jul 18 2018, 15:07:23
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#125
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Group: Металариец |
Короче, есть те люди, которым очень нравиться творчество Watain, а есть те, кому это все уже надоело. Предыдущие 2 альбома лично для меня интересней. На них были идеи, а тут стандартный, качественный блек. Вот если не имя, то естественно этот альбом бы прослушало минимум людей и не сильно восторгались. Как альбом в данном стиле, то очень хорош
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Nov 19 2018, 22:48:37
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#126
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Group: Металариец |
Unfortunately the sound is too polished and lacks of aggressivity. Particularly guitars, so poor... The titles of the songs are like promises not kept. Actually disapointing when you listen to the material after reading them. The band is not delivering the goods. Furor diabolicus ? Which furor ? The fire of power ? Which fire and which power ? Nuclear alchemy ? The begining of the song maybe... Then the cake psshhht ... Flat sound. Flat material. No rage no furor no dark atmosphere. Nothing evil. In a Word no black metal. They managed to be worse than Goatwhore. At least respect for that. Yes, I have never understood this whole fascination about Watain. There are just too many of those ''Orthodox/Anti-Cosmic Satanist bands''. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) |
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Nov 19 2018, 23:54:51
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#127
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Group: Металариец |
Yes, I have never understood this whole fascination about Watain. There are just too many of those ''Orthodox/Anti-Cosmic Satanist bands''. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) Their second release was quite innovative, fresh sounding, catchy and talented. But to date their efforts look not that good unfortunately. Too many copypastes and not even a spark of fire that they breathed back to 2003... |
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(2) infiltrator, rickzammuto, |
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Nov 20 2018, 00:42:34
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#128
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Group: Металариец |
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Dec 11 2018, 09:22:53
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#129
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Group: Металариец |
Their second release was quite innovative, fresh sounding, catchy and talented. But to date their efforts look not that good unfortunately. Too many copypastes and not even a spark of fire that they breathed back to 2003... First two albums of Watain are listenable, next three are totally boring. ''Trident Wolf Eclipse'' is still better than the last Behemoth. |
Dec 11 2018, 09:58:49
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#130
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Group: Металариец |
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Dec 11 2018, 19:41:22
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#131
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Group: Металариец |
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Dec 11 2018, 19:43:26
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#132
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Group: Металариец |
Are you their personal accountant? stop being a clown and open your ears (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif) |
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(2) biroutios, MAPhilosopher, |
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Dec 11 2018, 19:45:51
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#133
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Group: Металариец |
stop being a clown and open your ears Already did it and what I hear is that Watain is still a good black metal (well not THAT plain and bad) though I don`t like this particular album. Behemoth I don`t even listened to (their recent piece of music) because it`s not my type of music at all. |
Dec 11 2018, 19:48:29
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#134
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Group: Металариец |
Already did it and what I hear is that Watain is still a good black metal (well not THAT plain and bad) though I don`t like this particular album. Behemoth I don`t even listened to (their recent piece of music) because it`s not my type of music at all. To me Watin are pure posers without any interesting content for a long time now. This effort is trying to sound authentic but it is fake in every way and flat. I hope to change my mind one day... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/21.gif) |
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Dec 11 2018, 19:49:09
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#135
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Group: Металариец |
compared as gone both commercial and sell out I guess Yes, indeed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile3.gif) |
Dec 11 2018, 19:49:36
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#136
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Group: Металариец |
I hope to change my mind one day... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/21.gif) It`s totally useless (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) |
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(2) babanguida, infiltrator, |
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Dec 11 2018, 20:12:50
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#137
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Group: Металариец |
To me Watin are pure posers without any interesting content for a long time now. This effort is trying to sound authentic but it is fake in every way and flat. Yes, at least name of tracks and the whole album aren't that pathetic as Behemoth's. ''God = Dog''. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) ''Wolf ov Siberia'' beer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) Maybe I just don't love Behemoth at their darkest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) So this year even Watain was better that Nergal's money making band. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) |
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Dec 11 2018, 20:16:50
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#138
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Group: Металариец |
So this year even Watain was better that Nergal's money making band. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) Everyone loves money. But the thing is that A REAL creator that stays true to himself always keep somehow away from it and doesn`t sacrifice art on the altar of greed. On the other hand he uses it for creating somethin` more interesting. |
Dec 11 2018, 20:27:41
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#139
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Group: Металариец |
Everyone loves money. But the thing is that A REAL creator that stays true to himself always keep somehow away from it and doesn`t sacrifice art on the altar of greed. On the other hand he uses it for creating somethin` more interesting. Black Metal since the very beginning was anti-commercial, thus anti-materialistic. Both Watain and Behemoth are the opossite of this idea. They don't produce interesting things, so you even proved with your words they are not real creators. |
Dec 11 2018, 20:35:49
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#140
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Group: Металариец |
Black Metal since the very beginning was anti-commercial, thus anti-materialistic. Both Watain and Behemoth are the opossite of this idea. They don't produce interesting things, so you even proved with your words they are not real creators. Well but Black Metal you talkin` bout was dead almost 20 years ago. Of course there`re still creators who create with passion but there`re also a lot of those who just don`t care about the real true core in da music and do whatever he wants. |
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(2) biroutios, infiltrator, |
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Dec 11 2018, 20:39:48
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#141
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Well but Black Metal you talkin` bout was dead almost 20 years ago. Of course there`re still creators who create with passion but there`re also a lot of those who just don`t care about the real true core in da music and do whatever he wants. Yes, unfortunately. For me creators who continue the idea of underground Black Metal are more valuable than all those commercial/entertainment bands. |
Dec 11 2018, 20:49:11
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#142
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Group: Металариец |
Yes, unfortunately. For me creators who continue the idea of underground Black Metal are more valuable than all those commercial/entertainment bands. You can be happy - there`re still thousands of such "non-commercial" bands (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif) |
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(2) Antichrist, infiltrator, |
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Dec 11 2018, 20:59:20
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#143
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Group: Металариец |
Like Perky Macabre? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye.gif) I didn`t know that they play black metal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/17.gif) |
Jan 16 2019, 13:18:34
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#144
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Here Erik looks even a little bit serious. Certainly more serious than Nergal: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif)
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(2) infiltrator, Occultas, |
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Jan 16 2019, 13:31:17
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#145
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Group: Металариец |
Comparing B & W isn`t correct. While early works of W still delivers because of at least atmosphere, even the best B works they released are of absolutely no interest. Pure dullness.
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Jan 16 2019, 13:36:30
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#146
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Group: Металариец |
vosmidesijatye , ты через переводчик общаешься, или реально стал нехило рубить в английском?
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Jan 16 2019, 13:43:39
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#147
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Group: Металариец |
vosmidesijatye , ты через переводчик общаешься, или реально стал нехило рубить в английском? Повторяю - переводчиком для форумного общения нет смысла пользвоваться ибо английский здесь не требует особых изысков. Вот специализированный перевод требует обращения к словарям ибо даже более менее продвинутые переводчики типа Reverso Context не более чем дают первое приближение. |
Jan 16 2019, 13:53:01
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#148
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Group: Металариец |
There are just too many of those ''Orthodox/Anti-Cosmic Satanist bands''. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) Of course, not. If 2003-2007-2010 (especially last one) are "just one of" You, probably, didn't hear these albums at all. |
Jan 16 2019, 13:57:05
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#149
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Of course, not. If 2003-2007-2010 (especially last one) are "just one of" You, probably, didn't hear these albums at all. He meant BANDS in general, not Watain`s albums (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) |
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(2) Antichrist, infiltrator, |
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Jan 16 2019, 14:11:12
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#150
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He meant BANDS in general, not Watain`s albums (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1488.gif) Во-первых, тебе на английском отвечать не надо. Во-вторых, товарищ написал "Не понимаю ажиотажа вокруг Watain. Столько уже развелось типовых ортодоксальных сатанистских блэк групп". Что развелось - верно, но что Ватейн одна из них ну никак не верно. Потому что Ватейн хотя и играю в общем "типовой" блэк, явственно выделяются мелодизмом своих "средних" альбомов (то, что Чазм в начале треда назвал "Диссекшн метал"). Вопрос нравится/не нравится поднимать не будем, тут важно что это их выделяет "одними из" они точно не являются. |
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