QUOTE(KaozVomit @ May 11 2012, 01:16:35) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Шамилька, для меня это всё тоже крайне не понятно. Мне кажется, это слова не Мики, а лэйбла, на которои этот ssaный Нефандус, или как он там называется, выпускаются.
Трэк - лютейшее дерьмо, клип ещё хуже
Трэк - лютейшее дерьмо, клип ещё хуже
Это слова Мики, а не лейбла
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Mika Hakola
10 April near Norrkцping, Цstergцtlands Lдn
As co-founders of the so called "orthodox" movement within Black Metal, Ofermod claim the right that all bands in this movement oppose all acts of violation against children, meaningless violence and other appalling phenomenon this subculture has come to embody. Join us in the battle for a more "civilzed" form of spreading the Metal of Death, Black Metal, Heavy Metal...the Devils music in general.
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Florian Hucek, Robin Fjдll and 32 others like this.
Eyvindur Gauti I like these words.
10 April at 19:47 · Like
Andreas Haag smart
10 April at 19:51 · Like
A'arab Zaraq Only DOG's people (pedho-priests etc.) commit acts of violations against children. Only hylics commit such deliquent acts!
10 April at 19:55 · Like · 3
Glenn Edberg I'm all on your side with that statement!
10 April at 20:00 · Like · 1
Martin Hallin Paradoxal vдrld. Har full fцrstеelse och respekt fцr dina ord (dе jag inte gцr nеgot av sakerna du дr anti) men att gцra det du gцr nu kдnns fцr mig mдrkligt. Black metal eller subkulturer lдr vara svеrt att pеverka. Jag vet egentligen inte vad jag vill ha sagt. Kдndes bara som jag behцvde skriva nеgot.
Kul att du ska bli pappa i цvrigt. Grattis.
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10 April at 20:01 · Like · 1
Robert Nadde Karlsson Shit! Ska дven du bli en vis man? Jag kanske till och med ska lyssna lite mer ingеende pе din musik nu ocksе! Bra initiativ Mika!
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10 April at 20:12 · Like · 1
Nick DiBenedetto Anyone who commits a act against a child should be killed.
10 April at 20:13 · Like · 2
Mika Hakola Martin: Jag som individ kan ju alltid sе ett frц, sedan дr det upp till Metalfansen/musikerna att ta fram sina egna frцpеsar och bцrja sprida ett vettigare budskap. Ungdomsentusiasm i all дra, men den tiden дr fцrbi och det дr dags fцr oss gamla rдvar att ta ansvar fцr alla dumma ord och dеd vi gjort eller fеtt andra att gцra genom еren. Jag fцrsцker inte pе nеgot vis predika om att jag sitter med sanningen och rдttfдrdigheten pе min sida (har sjдlvklart gjort saker i mitt liv som jag еngrar) men kan som sagt i egenskap av BM/DM-musiker utnyttja denna position till att forma en bдttre vдrld, oavsett tro, religion (och annat som traditionellt hцrt denna genre till), дven om denna position дr en mycket liten sеdan.
10 April at 20:42 · Like · 1
Mika Hakola Nick: violence breeds more violence is my humble opinion. Then again I donґt claim to have all the aswers to how one should handle such people.
10 April at 20:46 · Like
Ricardo Pereira Edit: just translated your answer to Martin...ok, fair enough Mika. I see your point of view.
10 April at 21:47 · Like
Martin Hallin Mika. Jag fцrstеr som sagt din personliga stеndpunkt. Men jag resonerar typ fцljande. Kan man inte "stе" fцr vad Black Metal representerar sе bцr man lдmna scenen eller hеlla sina еsikter utanfцr estetiken. Frеga dig sjдlv hur en 10 еr yngre personen resonerat runt omkring det du skriver. Nog sagt. Ha en bra kvдll.
10 April at 21:55 · Like
Martin Hallin Det eller bцrja spela Life metal hehe.
10 April at 21:56 · Like · 1
Ricardo Pereira Harsh Martin... But not false. At all!! Come on Mika, one can grow up/mature, but that doesn't mean you reject ALL you stood for...
10 April at 22:00 · Like
Martin Hallin Detta дr verkligen inte en big deal frеn min sida. utan ganska normala tankegеngar runt дmnet, jag дr nihilistisk lagd i det stora hela. Men pе individnivе har jag ganska sunda ideal. Men vilken black metal "fan" дr intresserad av det?
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10 April at 22:08 · Like
Wraiюūz Kallet Not that I support child abuse, but isn't anti cosmic satanism against all human moral?
10 April at 22:26 · Like
Erwin Splatterhead Mika is using his brain, nothing wrong with that. If that isnt evil enough for some people, fuck them, who are they....to judge others,....lets see how their personal life looks like in about 10 years, and then speak again.
10 April at 22:35 · Like · 2
Petros Fragiadakis I don't think it is a matter of "supporting" child abuse or violence,but a matter of "accepting" that they exist in man,like many many negative things.It will never stop,it is obviously outside of ordinary logic and morality,something different.Besides,what is the point of supporting it if not actually doing it?Mika has a point and of course all the above opinions are respectable as everyone is free to believe and act on how he wants.Criticism is needless.
11 April at 01:16 · Like · 1
Nick DiBenedetto Mika: I agree and disagree with you. Violence causes more violence. But letting people who harm children (sexual violence) get away with their crimes is counterproductive to all of society, especially the youth of today. Any crime that is against a child is unforgivable. Any "man" that commits a crime of that persuasion needs to be removed from society.
11 April at 02:09 · Like · 3
Tim Keil Blatant statement, we all live in this system, which is fostering supressed sexuality as currency (happy marriage and career), which fosters aggression and all sorts of harmful lusts by passive nature. In a way, we all are passively destroying countless life and minds and simply ignore a huge heap pf percentage in supressed lust in men and women alike. Just botteling up the current of the soul doesnt make it more peaceful, we all know the priests foul deeds , do we not ? Anyway, I like that you make a statement in your position, no matter the depth or "truth" in this caleidoscope. I think to meet the problem of child abuse as a symptom for deeper problems is a good way to start breaking this old cycle up for good. For this, knowledge and an open mind are probably necessary. yay science.
11 April at 08:59 · Like · 1
Mika Hakola Martin and Ricardo: I have by no means abandoned my love for the "darker side of cosmos, the supercosmos/subcosmos/anticosmos", Iґve just taken it to a more spiritual point...to be a bit "morbid" is part of being human, and these morbid inclinations are to be brought to light. Enough about my personal view on spirituality. If, Martin, you think Ofermod are Life Metal to you because of that, so be it. I play the Metal music of the "Devils" (also a matter of point of view) and all that implies, thus I choose to label it BM/DM. Others may label it how they wish. Most of what was said and done back when for instance I was young was for the chock value of it anyway: to take things a bit further than anyone had done before. As a man looking back at what these youngsters printed on their albums, they deserve a beating (= not meaningless violence) haha, but joking aside, someone should have had a good talk with them about what it is to be a man instead of a clown doing anything for attention, even if it be negative such.
11 April at 09:05 · Like · 4
Charles Coffell mika you speak the truth
11 April at 09:23 · Like
Charles Coffell child abusers should be castrated with the most brutal of elements. i have come across many of "extreme" individuals in my life but the one thing they despise the most are child abusers. they truly are bottom of the barrell weak scum
11 April at 09:27 · Like
Tim Keil @charles how about children abusing children ? :B abuse their parents like they had been abused by their parents ? derpderp. Ima outa here.
11 April at 09:31 · Like
Charles Coffell regardless of age or what not tim abuse is abuse
11 April at 09:33 · Like
Charles Coffell but supression of sexuality just leads to deviant behaviors found in alot of the abusers. when it comes to adults abusing their kids and in turn those kids abuse other kids well its time they need to seek some sort of help to break the cycle
11 April at 09:49 · Like
ᚺᛖᚱᚱ ᚢᚨᛖᚱᚢᛚᚢ Ett utmдrkt stдllningstagande, Mika. Dock kanske det bцr utvecklas en aning om det ska tas till en hцgre nivе? Fцr den yngre publiken rдcker det inte att fцrklara hur det дr och hur det bцr vara - man mеste дven definiera varfцr.
Grattis till barnet, fцrresten!
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11 April at 13:23 · Like
Viktor Borlдnge Ferner Hеller ej med om allt du sдger. Med hoppas det gеr bra med barnet.
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11 April at 13:46 · Like
Mika Hakola 11 rutor: Detta дr bara bцrjan, givetvis.Ju stцrre Ofermod vдxer som band destе stцrre chans har vi att nе publiken med ett positivt budskap om den mцrka sidans potential. Dock дr vi inte lдngre ett band som gдrna predikar: jag kan bara fцrsцka еtertfцrtдra de grodor jag spytt ut under min karriдr som musiker hittills.
11 April at 18:28 · Like · 1
Marina Kosireva I am the fiance to Mika, and people who think that he is writing those words right now only because we are pregnant, THAT HAS NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE WHOLE SUBJECT!!! And People who encourage child abuse and sexuelly abuse most be RETARTED! Mika has shared these thougts with me for many years now !! So itґs not only now. So FUCK OFF TO THEM WHO ENCOURAGE ANY SORT OF ABUSE OR VIOLENCE! Finally I want to say, Please join the dark side, we have cookies.. Hehe No, But May the dark side be Holy ! DEATH
11 April at 18:39 · Like · 2
Charles Coffell well marina do they have chocolate chip cookies on the darkside
11 April at 18:43 · Like
Marina Kosireva Yes, At our home always
11 April at 18:44 · Like
Charles Coffell excellent
11 April at 18:45 · Like · 1
ᚺᛖᚱᚱ ᚢᚨᛖᚱᚢᛚᚢ I think it's also worth mentioning that Mika condemns meaningless violence - not violence that might serve a purpose on a larger scale. Am I right?
Another important matter is that one does not necessarily have to support all kinds of worthless and futile deeds of amorality just to prove some kind of point. To regard the physical form of life and the cosmic creation as lower entities is not at all the same as embracing mundane - and sometimes obnoxious - darkness.
People need to step out of the smoke and behold the entire picture. The cycle will be completed and we will transcend into pure chaos - Even without supporting pedophilia.
11 April at 19:04 · Like · 3
Charles Coffell why the fuck would anyone support pedophillia
11 April at 19:09 · Like · 1
Charles Coffell oh wait the is an american org. called NAMBLA. fucking disgusting.
11 April at 19:09 · Like
Charles Coffell im all for freedom to love who you want to love but these guys are pure trash
11 April at 19:11 · Like
Ricardo Pereira I absolutely find pedophilia an act of cowardice, that's not the point here. But i am kind of curious to know if you (Mika Hakola) really mean what you said (that you actions as a youngster were done merely for shock value). You don't support hard drugs, murder, etc anymore? I thought "we" were supposed to let the world burn. I must say i find your will to pass a positive message much more disturbing that all you've done before. Maybe that's the way to go...?
12 April at 01:53 · Like
Mika Hakola Haha, Ricardo, good that my BM "propaganda" still provokes someone at least. Everyone has a "world" of their own that must "burn" before the full potential of the dark side can be realized within the human mind/soul/super-soul...enough about my personal point of spiritual view. "The Lord Thy God is a Man of War", yet in a different fashion...murder is different from manslaughter for instance, but enough about this now. I have said mine and have nothing more to add.
12 April at 19:23 · Like
Wim Thiry hmz.. Though I somewhat agree with your point, and have made several plees for this already myself as being merely decent moral views and conduct, which just does not belong, I see no actual point in linking this to the Orthodox BM scene or what-have-you..
12 April at 23:53 · Like · 1
Ricardo Pereira Probably that's just me, i haven't done rehab yet. Will wait to see what are you coming up with (lyricwise) in the next Ofermod opus.
13 April at 15:36 · Like